Nice looking patch cables

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 28 Feb 2006 02:44

I kno this is not a necessity, but it would rock if instead of only lines, you had an option to use those awesome smoothed, cool looking electric cables.

Nice 'bouncy' bezier ones...that would be the icing on the cake...

I beg of u

and when ur in cable mode then like each module has an ouput socket, and an input socket at the top, and all knobs have a input socket next to them...

Post by **karmafx** » 01 Mar 2006 01:50

Hi Matthew, Thanks for the idea

However, I'm sorry to say that is not at the top of my list.

I have tons of stuff to implement before I start doing eyecandy stuff like that.

And seriously, wouldn't you choose a synth that *sounds good* over a synth that *looks good* any day ?

Maybe, when I run out of sound stuff to code, I'll consider it.
I will however add some user friendly skin-support soon...

- KarmaFX

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 01 Mar 2006 03:39

yea i understand that of course ...just a little side request that would rock if u ever got round to doing it...

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » 01 Mar 2006 23:18

In the meantime, I've found reshack works excellently for skin mods.

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 02 Mar 2006 03:46

whats 'reshack'?

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 02 Mar 2006 04:02

ok never mind google is my friend...woa reshack is cool...i like it...

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 06 Apr 2006 07:35

this flash project posted here demonstrates the bouncy cable effect quite well - now i know that the FLash drawing api is entireley different to the way karmas gui drawing system works, but i wonder if the maths behind this flash will help you out - its really straightforward and looks really cool. heres an example of it in action

http://www.kirupa.com/forum/attachment. ... 1144235276

and if you have flash you can view the .fla file to see how its done. its really easy to change the bounciness and speed of the wire movement just bay changing a couple of values....

http://www.kirupa.com/forum/attachment. ... 1144302625

if you cant get a trial of flash or whatever to look at it - the gist of the code is

this is the sort of 'global' code that draws the line that is calculated in the code below, every frame

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_root.onEnterFrame = function() {
	_root.createEmptyMovieClip("line", 1);
	_root.line.lineStyle(10, 0xFF3300, 100);
	_root.line.moveTo(p1._x, p1._y);
	_root.line.curveTo(pm._x, pm._y, p2._x, p2._y);
};

this goes in a small invisible object that simualtes the control point of the curve. it contains the math to work out the bounciness and elasticity

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onClipEvent(load){
	targX = 0;
	targY = 0;
	vx = 0;
	ax = 0;
	vy = 0;
	ay = 0;
	d=0;
}
onClipEvent(enterFrame){
	d = Math.sqrt(Math.pow(_parent.p1._x - _parent.p2._x,2)+Math.pow(_parent.p1._y - _parent.p2._y,2));
	targX = (_parent.p1._x + _parent.p2._x)/2;
	targY = (_parent.p1._y + _parent.p2._y)/2+d/2;
	ax = (targX-_x)*0.3;
	ay = (targY-_y)*0.3;
	vy += ay;
	vy *= 0.8;
	vx += ax;
	vx *= 0.8;
	_x += vx;
	_y += vy;
}

Post by **karmafx** » 10 Apr 2006 13:17

you *really* want those cables, don't you matthew

thanks for the code

...but still, no promises...

- KarmaFX

Post by **karmafx** » 10 Apr 2006 13:52

btw: Hey, if any of you make a cool looking skin (using reshack or whatever), please do send it to me

I havn't really prioritized the skin feature yet, but seeing some
cool skin might get me going...

- KarmaFX

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 10 Apr 2006 23:51

yea i really do - mostly cause of reason users. i hate reason myself, but i know you would get a lot more users if they saw stuff like nice bouncy cables....seriously this is from experience - all these people i know went googaa over the KORG legacy synth, casue of its nice cables....

Tom Goldschmidt · Post by **Tom Goldschmidt** » 14 May 2006 20:57

... I could see them better. Thin gray on gray and dark red on dark gray are not the best recipes for readability...

Regards,
TG

Post by **karmafx** » 16 May 2006 17:44

okay, I'll consider doing something about it !

- KarmaFX

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 17 May 2006 00:54

sweeeeeeeet. ill be able to get my friend into karma big time hes such a sucker for like the korg legacy synth with cables....

Post by **karmafx** » 19 May 2006 00:28

what colors would you like the wires to have ..(if not the color they have now) ?

- KarmaFX

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » 19 May 2006 10:39

Would it be possible to make this user-definable?

I'm trying to do a skin via reshack (though my gfx talents aren't particularly great and haven't been exercised in a long time, so I can't promise anything) and it would be helpful to be able to choose the colour. If not though, how about picking a colour from the modules themselves? Maybe the modulation comp yellow for modulation routings, and the lighter blue waveform colour from the sampler for audio?

Looking forward to the new version.

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 22 May 2006 09:09

how about picking a colour from the modules themselves? Maybe the modulation comp yellow for modulation routings, and the lighter blue waveform colour from the sampler for audio?

yea that sounds good....something logical like that...

Post by **karmafx** » 25 May 2006 10:03

done

bouncy, thick, antialiased cables will be in next release.
I've made it so you can choose between "linear" (default), "curved", and "bouncy".

or yeah, and of course it is possible to control the thickness, color, antialiasing etc. in the skin.

hopes this makes your day, matthew !

- KarmaFX

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » 25 May 2006 19:51

Looks great! Was there any significant CPU cost for this?

Excellent news about the skinning as well, I'm still trying.

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 26 May 2006 00:58

YEEEEEEEEHAAAHHH!!!!! They look gorgeous! Brilliant!

Out of curiosity - did you happen to use any resemblance of that code i posted? I doubt it as Actionscript is very different - but just wondering ...

That is so cool!! looks brilliant!!!!!!!!beautiful!!!!!

Man ur a champ - u actually listen to my suggestion - that is so cool!

I reckon my Korg Legacy loving friend will like this for sure too...

Post by **karmafx** » 26 May 2006 10:04

Glad you like it

Yes, the code you posted actually did help. So Thanks !
Of course I had to roll my own thick bezier line rasterizer.
But it served well as inspiration.

The performance is actually better than previous releases in linear mode.
(I optimized it hevaily) In bouncy mode it is slightly slower, but this is only because they are animated for a while when they bounce

- KarmaFX

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 26 May 2006 13:49

awesome

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » 28 May 2006 01:09

Yuk! Bouncy cables, glad you can switch it off

The curved ones might be good though to see where everything's going.

So.... I downloaded Reshack, looks like I can replace your graphic elements with different ones? I shall try to bang together an Ableton stylee 2D skin.
I already made a skin for Drumular... a popular download on the Ableton forum

Life is 3 dimensional, but a computerscreen is flat!

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 28 May 2006 06:22

i hate you whoever u are

bouncy cables are awesome

Post by **karmafx** » 28 May 2006 08:24

Cool syncro !

Look forward to the skin !!!

Yup, I'm not too keen on bouncy cables myself...but some people seem to like em'

...and they were kind of fun to make

- KarmaFX

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 28 May 2006 08:36

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » 28 May 2006 23:02

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 29 May 2006 02:02

hey kasper - the new release has so many cool things about it it makes me wanna piss my pants - which brings me to the question...

realistically when can we expect this baby?

Post by **karmafx** » 01 Jun 2006 00:44

No promises...but I hope to release it this week !

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 01 Jun 2006 00:59

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! *runs around in circles till passing out*

Yipeee!!!!

not to put any pressure on ya

Kasper i'd like to take this opportunity to renew my proposal of marriage - it will be a perfect relationship - you give, i take

togo59 · Post by **togo59** » 02 Jun 2006 16:46

I suppose getting it to print money as well is out of the question?

Post by **karmafx** » 03 Jun 2006 22:15

hehe...I've added it to the todo list

btw: Plugin pack 1.7 is ready for download NOW !

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 04 Jun 2006 00:56

SWEEEEEEEEEETTTTT

by the hey the link on the home page to download is pointing to 1.6

Post by **karmafx** » 04 Jun 2006 19:58

No, the link should be okay... I think.. Have just tested and it looks fine ?!

In any case, here is the direct link:
http://karmafx.dk/KarmaFX_Plugin_Pack17.exe

matthewjumpsoffbuildings · Post by **matthewjumpsoffbuildings** » 05 Jun 2006 04:12

my browser must have cached the old version of the home page ... sorry false alarm

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Nice looking patch cables

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